Syiah Sunni?

Im sad, the continuation of demonizing Syiah must stop.We are co signatories of the Amman declaration. We must never forget that.The idea of the Amman Doctrine or message is as follows:-

Islam is founded upon basic principles, the fundamentals are attesting to the unity of God (tawhid Allah); belief in the message of His Prophet; continuous connection with the Creator through ritual prayer (salat); training and rectifying the soul through the fast of Ramadan; safeguarding one another by paying the alms tax (zakat); the unity of the people through the annual pilgrimage ihajj) to God's Sanctified House, [performed] by those who are able; and [observing] His rulings that regulate human behavior in all its dimensions. Over history these [basic principles] have formed a strong and cohesive nation and a great civilization. They bear witness to noble principles and values that verify the good of humanity, whose foundation is the oneness of the human species, and that people are equal in rights and obligations, peace and justice, realizing comprehensive security, mutual social responsibility, being good to one's neighbor, protecting belongings and property, honoring pledges, and more.
Together, these are principles that provide common ground for the followers of religions and [different] groups of people. That is because the origin of divine religions is one, and Muslims believe in all Messengers of God and do not differentiate between any of them. Denying the message of any one of them is a deviation from Islam. This establishes a wide platform for the believers of [different] religions to meet the other upon common ground, for the service of human society, without encroaching upon creedal distinctions or upon intellectual freedom. For all of this we base ourselves upon His saying:

The messenger believes in what has been revealed unto him from his Lord as do the believers. Each one believes in God and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers. We make no distinction between any of His messengers—and they say: 'We hear, and we obey. [Grant us] Your forgiveness, our Lord. Unto You is the journeying,' (2:285)

Islam honors every human being, regardless of his color, race or religion: We have honored the sons of Adam, provided them transport on land and sea, sustained them with good things, and conferred on them special favors above a great part of our creation. (17:70)

We must not forget those ideas. We have decided in 2005 where 200 scholars from 50 countries came together for the sake of the Ummah including Malaysia to state these 3 points making it a world fatwa or Ijma Ulama whereby it is stated

1. The recognition of eight legal schools of thought (madhāhib) and the varying strains of Islamic theology viz.^[5]
   1. Sunni Hanafi
   2. Sunni Hanbali
   3. Sunni Maliki
   4. Sunni Shafi'i
   5. Shia Ja`fari - which includes the Ithna 'Ashariyyah and the Isma'iliyyah
   6. Shia Zaydi
   7. Ibadi
   8. Zahiri
   • Forbade declaring an apostate of followers of following creeds/practices/thoughts:^[5]
   1. Ash`ari creed
   2. real Tasawwuf practices
   3. true Salafi thought
2. The forbiddance from pronouncing disbelief (Takfir) upon (or excommunicating) others recognized as Muslims
3. The stipulations placed as preconditions to the issuing of religious edicts, intended to prevent the circulation of illegitimate edicts

 I am sad that today a talk that should be given by a Syiah proffessor Mohsen Kadivar titled Between Myth and reality in the Muslim world were cancel in fact a Q & A was allowed and the venue was change at last moment. What to question when there is no talk, I wonder? Are you saying these Malaysian signatories are stupid?

  malaysia

·  H.E. Dato’ Seri Abdullah bin Haji Ahmad Badawi ∫
Prime Minister

·  Dr. Anwar Ibrahim § π
Former Deputy Prime Minister

·  Dato’ Dr. Abdul Hamid Othman §
Minister in the Office of the Prime Minister

·  Prof. Dr. Kamal Hasan ¶
President of the Islamic International University, Kuala Lumpur

·  Prof. Dr. Mohammad Hashim Kamali § π
Dean of the International Institute of Islamic Thought and Civilisation

·  Mr. Shahidan Kasem §
First Minister of Perlis State, Malaysia

·  Mr. Khayri Jamal Al-Din §
Deputy Chairman for the Youth Sector, the United Malays
National Organisation

·  Dr. Salih Qadir Karim Al-Zanki *
International Islamic University

I know Tun Mahathir would agree that they are after all Tun has been a bit senile forgetting his liberal and open views on Islam. How time has change.

I am so perplex at the so call PHD's holders Malaysia has produce. The Quality is doubted. Recently at a Penang Story talk a moderator could equate Syiah with deviant teachings equating them to Matahari sect famous in penang in the 70's. I was bewildered and amazed ! Dumbstruck! Has he forgotten 3 of the Sunni Mahdzab founder studied fekah and hadiths under the 4th and 5th Iman of Syiah Muhammad al Baqir and his son Jaafar Al Siddiq? Do they not know that AlRumi the great thinker was syiah and also Sufi what about Alsyaari, was he not Syiah? Like Sunni they will be deviants in Syiah but these deviants does not obliterate their faith in Allah nor Muhammad. Most of them held that faith just like Sunni the deviants of Matahari and Ayah Pin Sky Kingdom does not obliterate their faith in Allah and Muhammad.

Islam also affirms that the way of calling [others] to God is founded upon kindness and gentleness: Call to the path of your Lord with wisdom and a beautiful exhortation, and debate with them in that which is most beautiful (ahsan). (16:125) Furthermore, it shuns cruelty and violence in how one faces and addresses [others]:

It is by some Mercy of God that you were gentle to them. Were you severe—cruel-hearted—they would have broken away from you. So pardon them and ask forgiveness for them and consult with them in the conduct of affairs. And when you are resolved, put your trust in God; truly God loves those who trust [in Him]. (3:i59)

Islam has made clear that the goal of its message is realizing mercy and good for all people. The Transcendent has said, We did not send you [Muhammad] but out of mercy for all creatures. (21:107) And the Prophet Muhammad—blessings and peace upon Him—said, 'The Merciful has mercy upon those who are merciful, be merciful to those on earth, He who is in heaven will be merciful unto you.'
Islam calls for treating others as one desires to be treated. It urges the tolerance and forgiveness that express the nobility of the human being: The recompense for an evil is an evil equal thereto, but who forgives and reconciles, his recompense is from God. (42:40) Good and evil are not equal. Repel with what is most virtuous. Then he between whom and you there is enmity will be as if he were an intimate friend. (41:34)
Islam confirms the principle of justice in interacting with others, safeguarding their rights, and confirms that one must not deny people their possessions: And let not the hatred of others make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is closer to piety; (5:8) God commands you to return trusts to their owners, and if you judge between people, you shall judge with justice; (4:58) So give [full] measure and [full] weight and do not deny the people their goods, and work no corruption in the land, after it has been set right. (7:85)
Islam requires respect for pledges and covenants, and adhering to what has been specified; and it forbids treachery and treason: Fulfill the covenant of God when you have entered into it, and break not oaths after they have been confirmed and you have made God your surety; truly God knows what you do. (16:91)
Islam recognizes the noble station of [human] life, so there is to be no fighting against non-combatants, and no assault upon civilians and their properties, children at their mothers' bosom, students in their schools, nor upon elderly men and women. Assault upon the life of a human being, be it murder, injury or threat, is an assault upon the right to life among all human beings. It is among the gravest of sins; for human life is the basis for the prosperity of humanity: Whoever kills a soul for other than slaying a soul or corruption upon the earth it is as if he has killed the whole of humanity, and whoever saves a life, it is as if has revived the whole of humanity. (5:32)
The primordial religion of Islam is founded upon equanimity, balance, moderation, and facilitation: Thus have we made of you a middle nation that you might be witnesses over the people, and the Messenger a witness over yourselves. (2:143) The Prophet Muhammad—peace and blessings upon him—said: 'Facilitate and do not make difficult, bear good tidings and do not deter.' Islam has provided the foundation for the knowledge, reflection and contemplation that has enabled the creation of this deep-rooted civilization that was a crucial link by which the West arrived at the gates of modern knowledge, and in whose accomplishments non-Muslims participated, as a consequence of its being a comprehensive human civilization.
No day has passed but that this religion has been at war against extremism, radicalism and fanaticism, for they veil the intellect from foreseeing negative consequences [of one's actions]. Such blind impetuousness falls outside the human regulations pertaining to religion, reason and character. They are not from the true character of the tolerant, accepting Muslim.
Islam rejects extremism, radicalism and fanaticism—just as all noble, heavenly religions reject them—considering them as recalcitrant ways and forms of injustice. Furthermore, it is not a trait that characterizes a particular nation; it is an aberration that has been experienced by all nations, races, and religions. They are not particular to one people; truly they are a phenomenon that every people, every race and every religion has known

I rest my case!